What do our patients say about us?
“Dear Professor Shun, I have just found out today that I am pregnant! I’m obviously thrilled but also wary as I know the odds of having a healthy baby are stacked against me. Is it safe for me to continue taking the herbs that you have prescribed in early pregnancy? Please advise when you can. I will stop for now until I hear from you. Many thanks.”
Alison is 42, she had 1 failed cycle of IVF and 4 miscarriages in 2015 prior to coming to us in March 2017. her AMH was deemed to be very low, at 0.8. She saw us 4 times and she sent the above e mail to us in September 2017.
“After about 6 months, he told me that the treatment is finished and I simply had to be patient. Incredibly, just two months later, I was ringing him with the wonderful news that I was pregnant’.
Elizabeth saw us for 6 months prior to getting pregnant at the age of 42. She had 4 unsuccessful IVFs and 1 miscarriage before coming to us. Her story was reported in Real Magazine.
“I wanted to let you know I had a positive pregnancy test this morning! Very happy. I had a little lower back pain last week but it has mostly gone, very excited, fingers crossed that all goes well this time”.
Sylvia had low AMH. She saw us 4 times before she sent this e-mail to us.
“I have not been able to go for my re-test yet. But I want to tell you that my wife is now pregnant”.
Robert saw us three years back to improve his sperm count and quality. He subsequently had a child. He came back to see us later last year for a second child. His sperm count at the time was less than 0.5 million per ml. and progressive motility was 6%. He said this to us in his fourth consultation.
How do we help you get pregnant naturally?
Many of our patients would like to get pregnant naturally as they think
- ’Natural pregnancy is less invasive as it is drug free’.
- ’I have tried three cycles of IVF and do not want to go through that again’.
- ’IVF is too expensive’.
- ’My AMH level is too low and FSH too high and I am 42. The IVF clinic said I should use donor eggs. I do not want to do that’.
We help couples to get naturally pregnant by improving their hormones (Increase AMH, decrease FSH), treating a range of issues such as PCOS, endometriosis, recurring miscarriages, severe period pain and improving egg quality, achieving hormonal balance, and improving sperm count and quality.
Is there an age limit for natural pregnancy?
It is no denying that the older you are, the harder it is for you to get pregnant, be it through IVF or through natural pregnancy.
It is worth nothing that in this country, IVF clinics are not allowed to take on female patients who are over 46 who would like to use their own eggs. This is due to the fact that IVF success for women aged 46 or over using their own eggs is close to zero as related to us by IVF clinics.
Older women are sometimes told that their hormones are no good and they will not be able to get naturally pregnant using their own eggs. This is more of the case when they have been through IVF procedures. When they AMH are deem to be low, stimulation in successive cycles tend to produce fewer and fewer eggs. When IVF is abandoned, women are sometimes told that their only way to have a child is through donor eggs.
These women are sometimes at their late 30’s or early 40’s and this piece of news could be devastating.
We take the view that natural pregnancy can occur if a woman is ovulating regularly. Secondly, good general and reproductive health are important and these can be also improved. This is borne out by the many patients who have seen their FSH, AMH and other key hormones improved after treatment. As far as hormones are concerned, the balance of them are more important to us than their individual level. As far as individual hormones are concerned, AMH is not as important as FSH. The following are signs that natural pregnancy in older woman could still be possible:
- You are ovulating
- You cycles are regular (or that your cycles have become more regular through treatment)
- Your key hormones are balanced (or that they are more balanced through treatment)
- Your FSH is below 25
How does the treatment programme work?
All patients come to us with their recent hormone tests results or semen test results.
For women, the hormone tests should include those listed in the two tests below:
For men, the test is as follows:
If you have undergone the above tests within the last 3 months, we will accept them as baseline results to work from. If you have not, we arrange them for you very quickly.
The treatment programme consists of three phases.
The treatment will last for 3 months with visits on a monthly basis. We will prescribe tailor made herbs for you to take in your monthly cycle. The herbal remedies will be altered to suit your changing condition. After 3 months, we ask to take the hormone tests again to check progress. Most patients see significant improvements and they move onto the second phase.
The second phase is also around 3 months. However, you may be asked to come to us every other month or have a rest between 2 to 3 months first before you start the second phase of 3 months’ treatment all in one go.
The third phase is the same as the second.
For treatment purposes, older women tend to require longer treatment than younger women in general. For women over 40, patients tend to be treated by us for up to 9 months. For younger patients, they tend to be treated for two phases instead of the full programme of three phases (up to 6 months).
What is our success rate?
Our success rate in improving hormones and sperm is over 80%. Our success rate for natural pregnancy is about 45%. Natural pregnancy usually occurs during the second or the third phase. `sometimes, they are achieved after treatment has stopped since for natural pregnancy, while your health and reproductive systems are functioning a lot better now through treatment, nature still has to take its course.
What are our fees?
The fees come to about £350 per month. Given our success rate, the fees of our treatment programme compares very favourably with IVF. Even if you have to go through with all 3 phases of our treatment, the fees will be just over £3,000 whereas a cycle of all inclusive (including medication, consultation, scans etc.) IVF is likely to be around £5,000 at a minimum.